doug,

the jeep also could have  the girlsname "shirley" on it as written in a book published in oisterwijk.

peter

Doug,

A moment ago I had a phone conversation with another eyewitness who as a boy of 13 had permission to go to the crash site and was there.
He is willing to show it to me and give some information.
He also remembers the jeep of Dr Desain he says.
Lets see if the two eyewitnesses match.
I am now writing down the story of the downing of the “Queen City” so it can be published in the historical society’s magazine of Oisterwijk and see if that brings up something.
Also the letter to the city hall is send to a buddy of me who works there and he past it on directly to the archive, that will probably speed it up.

Peter

Peter, I have send out some questions about the Willys jeep but nothing yet. I
am going away this weekend, to all places but the "Queen City", Cincinnati,      Ohio for a couple of baseball games. I will be back on Monday and want to talk with my website director about posting some of the video of my TV show last Monday. I can also send you a copy if you want.

Take care,
Doug

Doug,
Of course a copy would be very nice.
I went to the city hall and visited the archives.
Nothing new there, probably because the Germans did not allow Dutch police on the crash site so no special report of them in the archives only 2 reports of what we already know.
I made some photo’s of the Kerkhovense street I will mail you those and will give you the info obtained by me while talking to 2 witnesses.
Also went to the church and spoke to a guy who was cleaning up the cemetary, he might be able to come in possession of pictures of the old graves of the Americans who were ones buried there.also asked of photo’s of dr Desain with his willysjeep.
Also a Dakota pilot who made a crash landing near Oisterwijk was buried over here and was also relocated together with the other 4 soldiers.
Tomorrow is the memorial in Tilburg of the Indonesia conflict were I will be present.
Have a nice weekend…..

peter

Doug,

Did you receive my email about the eyewitnesses and crash site pictures??

Peter.

Peter, Yes I did-thanks for the information. I going this afternoon to see my webmaster and see if he
can put parts of last week's TV  interview on this web site. There is about three or four parts that I would   like to see put on, including the information you sent me about the crash of the "Queen City".

doug wilber

doug

check out this website
http://www.coulthart.com/jkhunter.html

also a victom of the german flak in oisterwijk, here they talk about a 20mm flak gun!!probably flak 38 2cm.
you can see some clips on youtube on flak 38 2cm and 20mm flak 38

peter.

doug
the photos on your site are from kerkhovensebaan.
the glider crashed in the kerkhovensestraat.
thats what i discoverd after talking to the eyewitnesses and reading other books of oisterwijk.
i have  send you the photos last week plus the eyewitnessreport.
i think you have that in your posession don't you if not i have to send that email again.
peter.

Doug,

I have a question about the interrogation report from Captain Tiedeman as shown on your website.
Was Tiedeman an eyewitness of the downing of the Queen-City? ore was the interrogation  report made up by him questioning an eyewitness?
If he was an eyewitness it means that Tiedeman and George Anderson are the only 2 Americans that saw the downing of the Queen-City known so far.

Peter

Peter, Five years ago I had a telephone interview with George Anderson,
a glider pilot who was being towed by Captain Tiedeman. Both saw the
left wing of the "Queen City" knocked off and the glider go straight down
which appears to be true sine the crash site was only 100 metres from
the German 20mm flak battery. There are other accounts also including
Courtney Bloom in George Koskimaki's book "Hells Highway". Also on my
website is a link to a Dutch website that has comments from 326th H&S
officer Bob Salley who also saw the glider go down.

doug wilber

Doug,

Is it possible to also put in the 2nd eyewitness acount?

thank you,

peter

Peter, Could you resent me Mr. Verhoeven's account to me.
I seem to be missing it.

doug wilber

Doug,

I think maybe you can findout something more about this soldier/crewmember of a dakota on the forums.
I found some info on the other American who was also buried in Oisterwijk on the st Petrus cemetery.
He was a onboard a Dakota (4)348400 as published in the book Zorgvolle Tijden (something like worried times or something like it)in Oisterwijk in the 90’s.
No further information is given only that this american and the four members of the Queen-City were relocated to Margraten war cemetery in 1946.
Maybe u can use this to retrieve more info?

Peter.

I contacted our local news paper “the NewsKlok” for a short article on the Queen-City to be published.
In this article information is asked about the crash of the Queen-City and its cargo.
It was published in the release of July 9, 2008.
Following story is the translation of the article as published:

Peter van der Linden
With special thanks to: J de Vries

                           RESEARCH ON tHE QUEEN-CITY

Oisterwijker Peter van der Linden is doing research to the circumstances a American glider, the Queen-City crashed on 18 September 1944  in the agricultural area kerkhoven in Oisterwijk.
He is trough channels in contact with relatives of the crew killed in this crash, buried in Oisterwijk and later relocated to the American cemetery in Margraten .


During WW2 a glider crashed in Oisterwijk on 18 September 1944.
It was a victim of German FLAK in Oisterwijk.
The glider crashed in the kerkhovensestreet en was partly destroyed.
On board was a crew of 4 occupants and cargo, a jeep.
Al 4 crewmembers died in the crash and where buried on the cemetery of  st Petrus banden.
The jeep from the glider survived the crash and was taken by the Germans who used it as their staff car.

                            Who can provide information

The story of the glider is published I several books about Oisterwijk during WW2.
Also a picture of the registration plate belonging to the jeep was published.
On this story Peter van der Linden is doing research for relatives of the crew.
He is searching for photo’s of the graves when the Americans where still buried in Oisterwijk.
For other American eye witnesses of the crash of the Queen-City he is searching for the whereabouts of the jeep onboard the glider.
These veterans of WW2 are very curious if the story of the jeep is a myth or a true story.
There is sometimes told by some elderly villagers that the former local j.p Dr Desain was in the possession of the jeep after the war.
For this research he is searching for the following information:

-Does somebody  know where the jeep is now a days?
-Are their still photo’s in somebody possession of the graves during 1944-1945 of the crew  
  killed in the crash?  
- is somebody in the possession of remains of the glider?
- is somebody in the possession of photo’s of Doctor Desain and his jeep with maybe a  
  number plate ore hood numbers on it?
-Are their still any eyewitnesses around that where at the crash site on 19 September 1944?
-Is their somebody that knows something more about this story?

Peter, Looks like a good article in the newspaper. Hopefully, some more
information may develop. How big is your village today and what was its
population back in 1944?

doug wilber