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peter van der linden
September 7, 2008, 1:20pm Report to Moderator

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Provided by Mr Jan Anema from Oisterwijk.

These pieces are now in my posession to keep.
Mr Anema took these pieces from the Queen-City's cockpit on Sept 19 1944.
At the age of 14 years old he climbed in the cockpit after the remains of the crew were already removed and the Willys-Jeep was taken from the glider by the German authoreties.
While hanging on with his lefthand on the gliders construction his handpalm was coverd with blood probably the remains of brain tisseu from the pilot.
He also took Mc Cann's helmet that was crushed in to a flat piece of metal that he found lying on the ground in the crushed cockpit.
Sadly the piece is gone now but a top piece of the steering wheel and pedal are.
The steering wheel probably broke of when the glider made his inpact in the ditch while Mc Cann still had his hands firmly around it.
The pedal was still atached by a little piece of the pipe and could be easily removed.
More closeup pictures can be made by me.

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Provided by Mr van Opstal from Spain

Its a Family piece taken at some point by his grandfather from the crashspot of the Queen-City.
Later it was painted by Mr Piet Brand from Oisterwijk.
Its probably a piece from the gliders tail section.
Its was painted to remember the period when the armada of aircraft overflew Oisterwijk during Market-Garden.
Its a family piece eversince and hangs on the wal of Mr van Opstal's home in Spain.
More closeup photo's are in my posession.

Peter.



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doug wilber
September 8, 2008, 1:04pm Report to Moderator
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Peter, Thanks for posting material from the Queen City. Next week is the 64th
anniversity of Market-Garden and the deaths of these four Americans. Good luck
with your newspaper interview next week.

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peter van der linden
September 8, 2008, 10:01pm Report to Moderator

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doug,

You probably didn’t expect me to turn up with this kind of stuff, I certainly didn’t, I was most surprised when I got the call.
This is turning out to become quite a story.
Maybe some kind of museum could be interested in the story.
Next week I will be at the Wings of Liberation museum in Son for the Remember September event,  think I’ll just ask around if they are interested.
What do you think?
Is there someone you know over there? or maybe trough some of your contacts of army men you met over the past years who can link me up with the museum?
Also do you have any info on the foot pedal, for instance what was its use, and where was it positioned in the cockpit?
I'm told the painted piece is from the tail end of the glider.
Maybe the glider expert you know can verify if its a glider piece and where it fits.
maybe he can tell something about the artefacts from the glider that are in my possession.

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Doug & Peter,

The curve wooden piece does look like part of one of the two (if dual control) steering wheels.  The pilot had two pedals, one for the brakes and oen for the rudder.  the co-pilot had rudder pedal but no brake pedal.   I am not home  where I can compare the posted images with other images to identify which pedal(s) for certain.

How long is the elongated triangle piece that is painted gray?  The piece was not painted by the factory or the Army.  It definitely would have been painted after the crash.  It appears to be one of the support pieces of the wooden nose structure that supported that structure in the center of the nose, forward of the steel tubing (if so, it has to be approximately a meter or less in length).    

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peter van der linden
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The piece is painted after the crash and would be les than 1 meter of length.
Maybe more to 50,60 cm.
Its in the possession of someone in Spain were it hangs on the wall of his home.
more pictures at http://www.naranyaweb.com/rianne

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Provided by Mr van Opstal from Spain

Its a Family piece taken at some point by his grandfather from the crashspot of the Queen-City.
Later it was painted by Mr Piet Brand from Oisterwijk.
Its probably a piece from the gliders tail section.
Its was painted to remember the period when the armada of aircraft overflew Oisterwijk during Market-Garden.
Its a family piece eversince and hangs on the wal of Mr van Opstal's home in Spain.
More closeup photo's are in my posession.

Peter.

Doug,
Charles Day provided the following information.
The part is the outboard end of the rear section of the aileron....  See images.
Apparently the piece has bee painted over form the original USAAF color.
Peter.





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doug wilber
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Charles, Thanks for providing the information on this glider piece. Good job!

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peter van der linden
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Today this little windshield was given to me by Mr. Wagemans from Oisterwijk.
He lives in a farm in the agricultural area Kerkhove in Oisterwijk for all his life.
At the road where his farm is situated in a field opposite to his farm was also German FLAK in position during September 1944.
This is one of the FLAK guns that shot at the armada of planes passing Oisterwijk during September 17,18 1944.
Also in late Oktober the Germans had a big howitzer in the same spot shelling the allies who where advancing to liberate Tilburg.
When he was a little boy 5 years of age his father had been to the crash site of the Queen-City and brought back a door from the glider.
According to Mr. Wagemans in this door, triangular of shape with canvas was this windshield.
The door was later on after the war used to build a rabbit cage but the windshield couldn’t be used.
So the windshield was stored in the barn until my story in the newspaper was published and it was dug up again.  
The windshield together with the wooden ring measures 33cm in diameter.
The plastic round windshield is kept in place by a round aluminum ring 2cm width with 12 bolts and nuts attached to a wooden ring 3,8cm width, the plastic round windshield measures 25,5cm in diameter within the aluminum ring.
The aluminum ring is painted in green and between this ring and the wooden ring still is some canvas also painted in green.

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Peter, Thanks for the post. The way your going you might end up with the whole glider.

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peter van der linden
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Doug,I’m sure aint gonna fly it!
Its amazing this stuff is kept for over all these years.
Peter.


                               
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